Garrett Graff's tells the oral histories of 9/11, from archive material he has collated to interviews he has conducted with people who responded to events on the day, such as one of the key advisors to Dick Cheney. He tells Dan some of those stories, such as the couple of firefighter and World Trade Center employee who sought to find each other in the confusion, to that of a man who survived being buried under 220 stories of the World Trade Center. Producer: Peter Curry
Ruth Ben-Ghiat joined me on the podcast to discuss what modern authoritarian leaders have in common and how they can be stopped. We discussed the strongman playbook from Mussolini to Putin, Johnson and Trump.
Dan and Tim Minchin discuss the value of argument, history, and how approaches to history are changing in Australia at the moment.
Sir Tony Robinson is a much-loved actor, presenter and author with a career lasting over fifty years. His new book, No Cunning Plan is out now.
